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a place for discussing or just listing decisions or anything else about the supreme court or its members.

To start it off:
Supreme Court Rejects Limits on Life Terms for Youths
from the NYTimes 4.22.21
The Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that judges need not determine that juvenile offenders are beyond hope of rehabilitation before sentencing them to die in prison. The decision, concerning a teenager who killed his grandfather, appeared to signal the end of a trend that had limited the availability of severe punishments for youths who commit crimes before they turn 18.
Over the past 16 years, the court, often led by Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, methodically limited the availability of the harshest penalties for crimes committed by juveniles, first by striking down the juvenile death penalty and then by restricting sentences of life without the possibility of parole.

But Justice Kennedy retired in 2018, and the court, now dominated by six conservative members, does not seem to have enthusiasm for continuing his project.
In dissent, Justice Sotomayor responded “the court is fooling no one.” ... she wrote, the sentencing judge must make a reasoned determination that the defendant’s crime reflected irreparable corruption rather than transient immaturity....
“As of 2020, Louisiana has imposed L.W.O.P. on an astonishing 57 percent of eligible juvenile offenders since Miller was decided.”
The experience in states that require a finding of incorrigibility was different, she wrote. In Pennsylvania, for example, fewer than 2 percent of resentencings have resulted in the reimposition of life-without-parole sentences.
Justice Sotomayor added that 70 percent of youths sentenced to die in prison are children of color.
I'm doing my best to pull quotes from this article but writing about legal decisions like in this article is complicated and I don't understand as much as I'd like. There have been several decisions on this topic and Sotomayor was criticizing the majority for their over riding precedent and I just am not able to comment on that so if someone else wants to give it a go, do. The article focuses on one case in particular: a then 15 y o boy who killed his grandfather with a knife. He is in prison for life without parole.
 
a place for discussing or just listing decisions or anything else about the supreme court or its members.

To start it off:
Supreme Court Rejects Limits on Life Terms for Youths
from the NYTimes 4.22.21



I'm doing my best to pull quotes from this article but writing about legal decisions like in this article is complicated and I don't understand as much as I'd like. There have been several decisions on this topic and Sotomayor was criticizing the majority for their over riding precedent and I just am not able to comment on that so if someone else wants to give it a go, do. The article focuses on one case in particular: a then 15 y o boy who killed his grandfather with a knife. He is in prison for life without parole.
Okay, disclaimer, I haven't read the article (yet), but what I will say is that I worked in a maximum security prison and having any chance of parole, however small is essential to maintain calm within the prison environment. No chance of parole literally means that a person has nothing to lose, they can murder a prison officer, or another prisoner, and it won't affect them, as they are inside until death anyway. The desire to suicide is higher as they have no hope, nothing to aim for, and for staff dealing with suicidal prisoners is time-consuming and stressful and just generally it help to have a cooperative prisoner when they are there for decades rather than an uncooperative one. So I'll read the article properly when I have more time, but my first gut reaction is that, no matter what someone has done, no matter how small their chance might be of ever being released, to take away all hope, especially from a juvenile is asking for trouble.
 
“As of 2020, Louisiana has imposed L.W.O.P. on an astonishing 57 percent of eligible juvenile offenders since Miller was decided.”

Not surprised where this case came from and how it was used. Louisiana has the hightest incarceration rate of any US state and is about 32% African American. The incarceration rate surpasses the combined rates of Russia, Iran and China, with nearly one percent of its population behind bars.

Angola Prison is on a former slave breeding plantation. The plantation was named for the African country that was the origin of many slaves brought to Louisiana. Angola is the largest maximum-security prison in the United States.
 
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“As of 2020, Louisiana has imposed L.W.O.P. on an astonishing 57 percent of eligible juvenile offenders since Miller was decided.”

Not surprised where this case came from and how it was used. Louisiana has the hightest incarceration rate of any US state and is about 32% African American. The incarceration rate surpasses the combined rates of Russia, Iran and China, with nearly one percent of its population behind bars.

Angola Prison is on a former slave breeding plantation. The plantation was named for the African country that was the origin of many slaves brought to Louisiana. Angola is the largest maximum-security prison in the United States.
Wow, 57 percent! That's crazy! What are the jails like? Is there much trouble in them? I'm not surprised at the African American rate, is that much above normal for the rest of the US?
 
Wow, 57 percent! That's crazy! What are the jails like? Is there much trouble in them? I'm not surprised at the African American rate, is that much above normal for the rest of the US?
The jails are wretched, of course. Louisiana was slave sales ground zero. New Orleans was called the nothernmost city in the Caribbean, comparatively short boat trip. Not even a state until 1812.

People do not realize how many pre-Civil War institutions like Angola still exist today, prolonged 100 years by USSC sanctioned Segregation. The only positive is that there is hella voting power in "the South" today. Hence the need for the evil powerful to continue with their draconian policing/incarceration measures.
 
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Recently received from the great organization - Color of Change - anyone can join. https://colorofchange.org/

People are imprisoned in Oregon by a discriminatory law passed after the rise of the KKK

..Last year, the Supreme Court acknowledged the racist origins of non-unanimous juries, and ruled the practice - only ever used in Oregon and Louisiana - unconstitutional. In the Court’s 2020 watershed decision, Ramos v. Louisiana, the Court found that: “Oregon’s rule permitting non-unanimous verdicts can be traced to the rise of the Ku Klux Klan and efforts to dilute the influence of racial, ethnic, and religious minorities on Oregon juries.”5 A person can no longer be convicted by non-unanimous juries of any kind.

...Yet, despite the decision, hundreds of people convicted by non-unanimous juries remain in prison.
Thousands more, also tried by non-unanimous juries and who have since completed their sentences, continue to bear the stigma o

There is, however, a powerful person who can act to ensure that every human currently incarcerated based upon a non-unanimous jury conviction has the opportunity to be released and retried: Oregon’s Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum.4 But we need to move her to action...
 
Can't comment on this right now but posting the link for relevance to the thread. From Salon, 4.27.21:
Amy Coney Barrett refuses to recuse herself from dark money case of Koch-funded group
Yup. Our dubiously-appointed supreme forced through the senate in the brief interval between Ruth Bader Ginsburg's passing and the 2020 election shows her colors. Aside: after this travesty of an appointment, we now have gop hypocrites actively complaining that Biden doesn't work with them the way they'd like. Waaaa. Cue the miniature violins.
 
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Can't comment on this right now but posting the link for relevance to the thread. From Salon, 4.27.21:
Amy Coney Barrett refuses to recuse herself from dark money case of Koch-funded group
Yup. Our dubiously-appointed supreme forced through the senate in the brief interval between Ruth Bader Ginsburg's passing and the 2020 election shows her colors. Aside: after this travesty of an appointment, we now have gop hypocrites actively complaining that Biden doesn't work with them the way they'd like. Waaaa. Cue the miniature violins.
It's not just her either. John Roberts said this -

On Monday, Chief Justice John Roberts expressed concern for mandatory disclosure laws surrounding controversial charities, according to Slate. "People have said they will make life miserable for anybody who supports that charity," he argued. "They'll picket outside their house. They will boycott anybody doing business with them."
 
Thought-provoking article about Thurgood Marshall.
From the NYTimes, 7.15.21
What Thurgood Marshall Taught Me

Yet there is something tragic and illiberal in evaluating other people according to their usefulness to our causes. In the particular case of Thurgood Marshall, remembering him only for his votes, or even for the remarkable success of his work as the leading civil rights litigator in the nation’s history, deprives us of the opportunity to admire the fullness of his humanity.
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At another level, the story about Lumbard is a cautionary tale about the importance, in a democracy, of being heard. In particular, those who govern must always be prepared to listen, even to the views of those so different they seem crazy.

Now and then, the Judge liked to say, the crazy people are right.
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Marshall agreed. At his confirmation hearings, when pressed by opponents on controversial Supreme Court decisions, he took refuge repeatedly in the principle that he should not discuss cases that might come before him... In our conversations, the Judge never wavered from the view that the likely votes of a potential justice were none of the Senate’s business.
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Yet despite the insults, despite the threats, despite the risks to his own life, the Judge found in his heart little room for hatred. Many of his tales involved what he called “playing cards and drinking whiskey.” And who were his card-playing, whiskey-drinking partners? Usually his friends and colleagues, but now and then — to hear the Judge tell it — they were some of the most notorious segregationists of the era. Marshall would sit with them in back rooms across the South, making deals.

Marshall particularly liked to tell the story of playing cards one night with a notorious segregationist governor. Marshall reminded the governor that no Black nurses were employed at any of the state hospitals — including the colored hospital. If nothing changed, there would probably be a lawsuit...
The governor considered. ‘OK, Thurgood,” he said. “I’ll fix it. You won’t like the way I fix it, but I’ll fix it.”
A few days later, the trustees of the state hospital system met. The governor, an ex officio member, put in a rare appearance. And the way Marshall told me the story, the governor stood before the trustees and said something like this: “I was visiting the hospital the other day. I went over to the colored ward, and there, to my astonishment, I saw the flower of Southern womanhood tending to every need of colored men — ”

At that point the governor was interrupted by an uproar. That very day, the trustees voted unanimously to hire the first Black nurses in the state’s history. The governor called Marshall on the phone and said: “See? I told you, you wouldn’t like how I’d fix it.”
Offensive, to be sure, but that made no difference to Marshall. Although I’ve long wondered whether the story might be apocryphal, it illustrates his central ethic. Marshall’s goal was to get things done. “You could do business with him” — that was his highest praise.
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Sitting in those smoke-filled back rooms, he did business with lots of people whose identities would stun a modern audience. Decades later, he still remembered many of the infamous segregationists of the age with respect, and even a kind of distant affection. People, he would say, are complicated.

I once asked him what he thought of John W. Davis, the prominent lawyer who argued the other side in one of the consolidated cases known collectively as Brown v. Board of Education. Davis, the 1924 Democratic presidential candidate, is the Davis for whom the prestigious Wall Street law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell is named. He was also an old-school West Virginia gentleman — and a dyed-in-the-wool segregationist.

Naturally, I assumed that the Judge would heap hellfire and damnation upon Davis’s head.

I was mistaken.

“John W. Davis?” Marshall said with a smile. “A good man. A great man, who just happened to believe in that segregation.”

Marshall wasn’t being facetious. He was making a point, one he made over and over. To the Judge, those who disagreed with him on the most important moral issue of the 20th century in America did not thereby lose their humanity.
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to treat Thurgood Marshall’s gregarious humanity, his ability to see past differences, as a notable act of insincerity, a kind of minstrel show in the service of the freedom struggle, is to peer at one of the towering figures of history through the same distorting lens that accounts for the smallness of today’s political vision. I spent enough time with the Judge to be certain that his warmth toward his opponents was genuine, characteristic of a man who so delighted in his fellow human beings that it was difficult to earn his enmity. That our commonalities are greater than our differences is a cliché, but Marshall believed it to his core.
 
o, kavanaugh! o, kavanaugh!
I haven't watched but only the first 30 seconds of this and I have to go, so I'm posting it, nevertheless. I did hear other commentary about this incident... the 4500 tips! [well... they could all be rah, rah, kavanaugh, I guess. I don't think anyone's seen them yet.], which takes some of the onus off of the FBI, in this instance. It's one of those strange circumstances that seem to crop up, now and then, when it comes to interactions between government agencies and what's a rule and what's a law and what's a custom. In this case, the Executive Branch actually 'hires' the FBI to run an investigation on a supreme court nominee. And, the administration can limit the investigation's scope to exactly what they want, and no more. And, the FBI can only investigate within this limited scope. The other commentary I heard suggested that the FBI set up the hotline as a run-around of the fact that they were not allowed to investigate but the tiniest, most restricted scope set up by the t---- administration. And, their run-around garnered 4500 tips! What?!!!!
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But can a Supreme be investigated after the fact? Obviously the former admin did not want the FBI to dig too deep, lest they find anything.
 
This is pretty interesting. I came across this description of the likely direction this newly-packed Supreme Court will take while trying to figure out the implications of the Supreme Court deciding to take up cases being brought by several power plants challenging the ability of the EPA to determine emissions standards. I'll start here with this interesting analysis and history of the Court's approach to regulation.
The Supreme Court's coming war with Joe Biden, explained [Vox; 3.27.21]
Sub-title: 'The Supreme Court is poised to give itself veto power over much of the Biden administration's authority'
 
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So, then, you get to this last week. The Supreme Court is deciding what cases it will take up for this session. Here's one about the EPA.

Top Court Takes Up Climate Challenge in Pre-Summit Jolt to Biden [Bloomberg; 10.29.21]

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider limiting the Environmental Protection Agency’s authority to curb greenhouse gases from power plants, agreeing to hear appeals from coal-mining companies and Republican-led states.

The appeals seek to prevent President Joe Biden’s administration from imposing the type of sweeping emissions rules the EPA tried to put in place when fellow Democrat Barack Obama was president. The Supreme Court put Obama’s Clean Power Plan on hold in February 2016, and it never took effect.
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The challengers include a Nacco Industries Inc. unit and Westmoreland Mining Holdings.

The cases are West Virginia v. EPA, 20-1530; North American Coal Co. v. EPA, 20-1531; Westmoreland Mining Holdings v. EPA, 20-1778; and North Dakota v. EPA, 20-1780.
 
Here's another analysis that aligns with the topic in post #14 and provides more depth into the implications of a decision.
A new Supreme Court case could gut the government's power to fight climate change [Vox;11.3.21]
The Supreme Court announced late last week that it will hear four very similar cases — all likely to be consolidated under the name West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency — which could prove to be some of the most consequential court decisions in recent US history.

That’s a bold statement, so allow me to explain.

The cases are the latest chapter in the seemingly never-ending litigation over the Clean Power Plan, arguably former President Barack Obama’s boldest effort to fight climate change. Though the plan was never implemented, it still exists in a zombie-like state. A federal appeals court decision revived the plan last January, but the Biden administration said in February that it would not reinstate Obama’s policy.
Even though it’s no longer likely to be implemented, the petitioners in the West Virginia case — red states, energy companies, and owners of coal mines... call for new limits on the Clean Air Act that would severely restrict the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to reduce greenhouse emissions in the future.
But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. At least some of the parties in the West Virginia litigation claim that it is unconstitutional for the EPA to take the sort of aggressive strides against climate change that the Obama administration took in its Clean Power Plan. This theory wouldn’t just strip the EPA of much of its power to fight climate change, it could potentially disable Congress’s ability to effectively protect the environment.

And even this description of the West Virginia litigation doesn’t fully capture the stakes. The most aggressive arguments against the Clean Power Plan wouldn’t just apply to environmental regulations — they could also fundamentally alter the structure of the US government, stripping away the government’s power on issues as diverse as workplace safety, environmental protection, access to birth control, overtime pay, and vaccination.
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The Clean Air Act relied on a type of governance that is ubiquitous in federal law. Congress lays out a broad policy — in this case, that power plants must use the “best system of emission reduction” — and then delegates to the EPA the task of implementing that policy through a series of binding regulations.

Countless federal statutes rely on a similar structure. The Affordable Care Act, for example, requires health insurers to provide certain preventive treatments — such as birth control, many vaccinations, and cancer screenings — at no additional cost to patients, and it delegates the task of determining which treatments belong on this list to experts at the Department of Health and Human Services. The Department of Labor may raise the salary threshold governing which workers are eligible for overtime pay, in part to keep up with inflation.

There are several reasons why this sort of governance, where a democratically elected legislature sets a broad policy and then delegates implementation to a federal agency, is desirable. For one thing, Congress is a dysfunctional mess. If a new act of Congress were required every time environmental regulators wanted power plants to install new technology, it’s likely that those plants would still be using devices that were on the cutting edge in 1993.

Delegating power to agencies also ensures that decisions are made by people who know what they are doing. Imagine, for example, if Congress had to pass a law every time the Food and Drug Administration wants to make a new drug available to the public. Even if Congress had time to vote on such a decision, most members of Congress know very little about biology, chemistry, or medicine.

Delegation also insulates important decisions from political horse-trading. The decision about whether to approve a new drug should be made by scientists in the FDA, not by lawmakers who might be concerned that the drug’s manufacturer is in Arizona, and that they need to butter up Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) to secure her vote for the Build Back Better Act.

Nevertheless, a majority of the Supreme Court is very hostile to the idea that federal agencies should be allowed to set policy, and at least five justices have signaled that they want to revive a largely defunct constitutional doctrine known as “nondelegation.”
It wasn't that long ago that I remember people saying, "it doesn't matter which party you vote for. They're both the same." That's what some want you to think.
 

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